On a freezing cold wintry Tuesday
afternoon I came into forty-five minutes of rehearsal for Derby
Theatre's 'soon to be' production of the late Siobhan Dowd's novel
Solace of the Road. In this case it has been developed into a play
format by the acclaimed playwright, Mike Kenny.
After the rehearsal I
met up with Polly Lister and Robert Vernon – two principal members
of the cast - for a chat about the story and how they fit into it and
how the rehearsals under artistic director Sarah Brigham were going.
Heidi McKenzie
introduced me to the actors and vice versa and outlined my acting and
writing credentials. It was a very relaxed and intelligent interview.
Once we were quickly
settled I read Polly and Robert a one page synopsis of the book and
asked whether in theatrical terms it related to the story that Mike
Kenny has developed.
They both agreed that
in broad outline of the story and its characters it was spot on. I
asked them how far they were into the rehearsal process. Polly said
they were day two of week two into the rehearsal process.
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Polly Lister |
Polly: Earlier on we
were a doing an exercise where we were all told to write things down
for our different characters but when it came to present, Miko
(Robert's character) said “Well actually I've got three characters”
That was really funny and actually from that became a blueprint of
Miko. And so when Sarah talks about it we have Michael the real guy
and then we have another two versions of him which is really Holly
the main character played by Rebecca Ryan.
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Rebecca Ryan |
Robert: When he has to
leave his job then he's Michael and then when he has to relate with
Holly he becomes Miko. The version she meets most of the time is
that version. There is a third phantom ghost figure which represents
the romanticised island calling her. Call it an idyll on the green
hills. We talked in ways of saying that Miko pulls her through the
story and he is the Irish spirit guide who is a fantasy.
Polly is playing
Holly's mum, her step mum and a variety of other roles along the way.
Polly said that all her characters have an impact on Holly/Solace's
life on her particular journey. They all represent certain themes
which are all important to her development. And so I play
Mrs Atkins who embodies the authority that she is railing against. I
play Chloe who is a university student at Oxford who she meets on the
coach who represents a better future for women. This is a very sort
of wholesome vision of a strong young woman whereas I think she has
only had negative versions of strong women before and this girl is
presenting something quite authentic, polite, kind, intelligent,
generous and she is still strong and groovy.
Robert: She becomes
more accessible as well because at first she seems like something
that Holly couldn't be and then no, you've also got this commonality
- meaning she could be like her.
Polly: Yeah yeah and
then of course there is the awful mogit woman she meets at the ferry
port. Actually this woman does just represent just utter misery. I do
get to play just a one noted character too. (laughs).
I said that in the
brief rehearsal I had just witnessed there was a lot of laughter and
excitement as some of your cast worked through a motorbike riding
scene that necessitated human balance and body co-ordination skills.
It was very funny but I asked whether the play had a lot of humour in
it?
Polly: I think it has
every sort of voice and every sort of tone and there are belly laughs
and I also think there are wry smiles. I think there are knowing
laughs and I think are variants of all emotions.
Robert: There are some
very human moments as well, aren't there? Warm. But then there are
psychological elements. There are some quite harrowing moments that
are just sort of teased out and then just moved away from it. They
leave just enough remnants of those difficult emotions so it is
really interesting. The thing is that the pace is really fast.
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some of the cast in rehearsal |
Polly: Sarah said that
the piece we worked on last night has really worked and whilst we are
characters we are definitely in the cranium of Holly Hogan and so
that any image we represent or present has a feeling as if Holly is
developing an old fashioned photograph. Every sort of influence we
give it makes the photograph something that we can play with as it is
developing. The best way I can describe it is as if we are subtly
playing with the tonal levels in her brain as she calls upon the bits
that she knows will help or scare her
Phil: And do you think
that would be aided not only by the acting/ conveyance of emotions
but also enhanced by Barney George's set design and the lighting and
sound scape? I'm thinking of the whole bringing those things home in
the theatrical illusion of moments fading in and out as memories.
Like you would see in an old fashioned photograph developing in the
dark room tray. Eventually we get to see the whole sharp picture but
it can still be manipulated and interpreted by the onlookers – the
cast and the audience.
Robert: We are shifting
through all these memories and we keep getting reminded that the
design is about black. So the ability to have absolute darkness on
the majority of the stage and just pinpoint one area and seeing
nothing else you can just frame it along with a few things
simultaneously. Suddenly you can go 'look at this!'. That's really
interesting, it has a focus and can create very intimate things.
Phil: It is very much
like what I saw in the Derby Theatre promotional video for this show.
Moving swiftly from place to place and scene to scene.
Robert: Yes, that's
spot on. I think also the danger with this sort of thing is that
there are so many things happening so fast it can all just blur into
one and you don't get the detail. It goes bang look at this and now
bang look at this.
Polly: And playing the
dichotomy between the two things in her head she can conjure an image
top right of warmth and 'come to me – come to me' and beckoning and
down here something different that contrasts. We are talking a lot
about light and colour and dark and shade and everything...
but... down here we are now skew whiff, slightly at odds with the
other impression. They are both co-existing in her head and it is the
one she chooses to extinguish that carries the story forward or for
that matter bring up or put down. It's like emotional puppetry with
light, sound and acting.
Phil: That's very
interesting. I can imagine that as you tell it – how it might be
presented.
Robert: Stylistically
it is fascinating and there will be lots of explosions of light very
quickly...
Polly: There is a
thunderstorm on the heath where it is her epiphany or her nadir. But
from the nadir comes her strength and resolve. We did a time line
today and we worked out that she's actually, if everything
chronologically makes sense, on that hill, in the pouring biblical
rain talking to Jane Eyre, for four and a half hours! So she's in one
hell of a thunderstorm and in that thunderstorm every emotion is
crashing over another one and she's manifested in most of the
characters in the play … screaming at them all.
I asked in all this
dramatic cacophony if microphones might be used. The answer was that
Polly and Robert believed that it would be done live without mikes.
Polly: We are using two
hung mikes for radio announcements and such and that's more of an
artistic thing than a vocal thing.
I asked Robert to tell
me something of his character.
Robert: Oh well, right.
Miko in reality was her care worker in Templeton House and they've
had a very strong relationship. He is very dedicated but at the start
of the play he is moving on to new things. In the play he is a part
of her psyche that she looks to for comfort, for advice, and for
guidance. Also he is just a buddy on her road trip. Sometimes it s
nothing more than that – someone to bounce off and say “ hey look
at that – look at this”. Light-hearted. I'm finding where we are
getting to in the play now he transpires to be a very pointed absence
where she meets the most threatening character. Unfortunately, he is
not there at all. This means that she is actually confronting the
issue at hand herself and in a mature way. Her age is only 15 but the
majority of the characters believe she is 17 or even 18 years old
throughout the play because of her behaviour. Looking back at Miko he
is very warm and human and that's the thing – I didn't want him to
be just some apparition.
Polly: We had a day
when lots of children who lived in care and were coming out of the
other side of it came in to work with us and the biggest topic of
conversation they wanted to talk about was Miko's character. This was
because on a scale of one to ten, when he says he is leaving
Templeton House, if ten is the worse and one is the best plus this
represents absolute abandonment and say, you felt ten when your mum
left, what would Miko be? They all said 'ten'. It is that important
and so it is so important for Robert to get the role spot on and he
does.
Phil: That must have
been moving to hear such an absolute opinion from the children in
care.
Robert: Yeah, it was
good to hear it in such strong terms because in the story we
obviously would never under estimate the significance of her mum in
her life even though Holly says that she can't remember her mum
properly – it is all stories and pictures – poetically described
as a painting running in the rain. Whereas he is a real person and
the person that has been the most dependable
for her.
Polly: In rehearsal we
did a thing where we had to write who had been around in her life
more so who has been a constant in her life. The only person who beat
Miko was her pet dog Rosabelle– a fluffy toy to which she had clung
for a good proportion of her young life. Rosabelle has been with her
in every single life event until the audience meet her.
I was interested to
hear about a human being focussing their loving nature and need to
express love on a toy when there was little human love in their life
and I related a story about myself going through a divorce some years
ago and happening upon a toy monkey found in a work environment which
became a focus for me of succour for a while.
Polly: That's very
sweet. In the story of the play Miko says to Holly that she should
put the toy dog down, not pretend to feed it food any more, keep it,
don't dispense with it but set it aside and lessen its value – let
it just warm your feet. You can't treat the toy like a real thing any
more – you need to grow up. Holly then chooses to leave the toy dog
at the care home.
Robert: I really like
that idea of the mementoes because as the play progresses elements of
that are bleeding through into earlier moments and revealing truths
through experiences and items. As you say – with these
qualities and ourselves as living mementoes (especially in this
story) she is the memento. She is the only connection to the mother
really and that is referenced to. There is a twinkle in the eyes –
a memory of the mum...
Polly: Like a shadow
looking into the same mirror as Holly so she can see her mum
reflected and the mum's saying “There's a little bit of me in those
eyes” and that's obviously Holly saying “I can see my mum.”
That was possibly the
most intelligent and insightful and poetic interview I have ever
done. Many thanks for your feelings, your information and your
intellect actors Polly Lister and Robert Vernon I look very much
forward to seeing
Solace of The Road at Derby Theatre.